Μεταγραφές Καλοκαιριού 2018 II

[MANIAKOS]

Αν επανερθει ο βερνμπλουμ τοτε επαναφερετε κ πετρο
Λειποθν τεροιεσ φωνεσ

[alp920]

Με αφορμή τις διαφορετικές απόψεις απο χθές για τον Σουηδό δεν μπορώ να μην παρατηρήσω ότι αυτές εκφράζονται με ένα επίπεδο χωρίς προσωπικές αντιπαραθέσεις.
Μακάρι να πάει όλη η σεζόν έτσι.Ομορφαινει το φόρουμ.

[HOOL4IGAN]

Πες τα Μάνι μουυυυυυυυυυ!!!

[MANIAKOS]

ενα ενδιαφερον (προσφατο) αρθρο για τον σουηδο

CSKA Moscow Preview: beware the Pontus end of the stick
April 4, 2018 by imothyt

Let me tell you a little story about a man named Pontus. He plays for CSKA Moscow and until just a few month ago he was normally deployed as a defensive midfielder but now plays as a forward.

Pontus Wernbloom earned his reputation as “the Swedish Gattuso” if that helps clarify his abilities on the pitch. Put it another way, he’s not so much known as a hard player as a hatchet man. His highlight reels are usually five minutes of him kicking an opponent in the midriff, sliding in with a crazy tackle, or elbowing someone in the face. He also typically likes to fall over after one of his crazy tackles and feign injury to himself.

We shouldn’t even call him a midfielder. His career before becoming a striker was bereft of any of the skills you expect to see in a midfielder. He can’t pass (sub 80% for a DM is truly awful), can’t dribble (he has 19 successful dribbles in the last… 5 years), doesn’t create (11 assists in the last five years), and doesn’t tackle or intercept the ball – he used to, but he’s 31 now and not nearly as mobile as he once was.

But he does like fouls! And yellow cards. He once said “getting cards is my job” and has 60 yellow cards in 5 years. In the olden days (three years ago) he used to get about a card every 154 minutes. He’s calmed down considerably (or learned how to foul more sneakily, depending on who you ask) and only has 10 cards this season for a rate of one every 259 minutes.

He’s pretty much a saint then.

The other thing he’s good at is winning headers. Even as far back as 10 years ago when he was still in Sweden, coaches have recognized that the nearly 190cm player was a rock and could win some aerial duels. So they would throw him up front when they needed a late goal. And Wernbloom delivered.

There is a glowing article on ESPN about his leadership qualities, which ends by suggesting that Arsenal should sign him this summer. That suggestion aside, he does seem to be a leader on his team and is a cult hero among the CSKA supporters for his uncanny knack of scoring late, important goals for his team.

Pontus Wernbloom is the kind of player who gives everything for his team. Tattooed on his arm is the Latin “Veni, Vedi, Vici” which is popularly attributed to Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar wrote those words – which mean I came, I saw, I conquered – after his victory over the kingdom of Pontus*. You have to admit that it’s a perfect tattoo for the guy named after the god/kingdom that Caesar conquered and who seemingly lives his life by that quote as some sort of motto.

Meanwhile, he’s up top elbowing, kicking, scrapping, stepping on people, and falling all over the place to make it look like he is also being fouled. In his new role as a forward Pontus Wernbloom has transformed himself from the Swedish Gattuso into the Swedish Kevin Cyril Davies.

CSKA Moscow are more than just Pontus. They have Aleksandr Golovin, another player with 9 yellow cards this season. He plays in CM and can do all the things a CM should be able to do, in addition to his fouling. They have a Brazilian named Vitinho who is their leading goalscorer and set piece taker. Bibras Natkho is their Israeli midfielder and he takes the remainder of their set pieces.

Statistically, they are an unremarkable club with two exceptions. They lead the Russian League in blocked passes and are 2nd in tackles. This combination is what I consider a “Liverpool” or pressing defense. In Europa League play, CSKA attempted an astonishing 37.5 tackles per game, 4th in the league behind Salzburg, Atletico, and Borussia Dortmund.

κι ενα ακομη

Arsenal have been missing a player like CSKA's Pontus Wernbloom
Apr 4, 2018

CSKA Moscow were winless in Rostov since 2006 but needed to take all three points on Sunday in order to stay in the title race. With the score at 1-1 after 75 minutes on a disastrous pitch, things didn't look promising, but Pontus Wernbloom had other plans. The Swede was in the right place at the right time again, and the curse was broken.

"I can always count on you, my friend," CSKA midfielder Bibars Natcho wrote on Instagram after the 2-1 win. Supporters have known that ever since Wernbloom made his debut for the club.

In February 2012, he put the CSKA shirt on for the first time on the biggest occasion imaginable: against Real Madrid in the Champions League. And, even though he is a Madridista, he duly scored an injury-time equaliser and instantly became a hero. Now, more than six years later, the Swede is a legend because he never gives up and always leads by example.

As CSKA prepare to face Arsenal in the Europa League quarterfinals on Thursday, one might say that Wernbloom is exactly the type of player the Gunners have been missing during the last decade.

Arsene Wenger's team are often accused of being too soft, whereas Wernbloom is tough as nails. His energy on the pitch and in the dressing room is boundless and he never shuts up. Fans and teammates adore him, while opponents hate to play against him because the Swede is known for extremely tough tackles. "Getting cards is my job as a defensive midfielder," he has said.

That is how Wernbloom understood football from the beginning. In his first seven matches for IFK Goteborg, when he was 19, he received four yellow cards and was sent off as well. He wasn't shy and made his voice heard. Not for nothing, the club singled him out as heir to the famous national team midfielder Hakan Mild, who retired in 2005.

It was an inspired choice, but there was a twist. In 2007, Wernbloom played a crucial role as Goteborg won the championship for the first time in 11 years. In a tight battle against Kalmar at the top, the team needed to win all their remaining games, and Wernbloom helped them to get all the points. He scored the winner in the derby at GAIS and then found the net on the final match day against Trelleborg.

The team needed him up front. Marcus Berg left for Groningen in the middle of the season, and coaches Stefan Rehn and Jonas Olsson decided to convert Wernbloom into a centre-forward so that he could use his strength and aerial prowess in the penalty area. Nicknamed "Dinosaur" in his early days at tiny Kongahalla for his size, the 6-foot-2 Wernbloom is not an easy man to mark.

"He proved himself as a player with more abilities that just kick people down. He was the leader of the pack," Goteborgs-Posten journalist Fredrik Janlind tells ESPN FC.

Those qualities convinced Louis van Gaal to cherry-pick the Swede for AZ Alkmaar in 2009. Two and a half years later, Wernbloom moved to CSKA Moscow and immediately made an impact. He was immense in central midfield when winning three championships, and regularly made important contributions up front too. The injury-time winner against Lokomotiv Moscow in 2012 springs to mind and, in May 2015, Wernbloom saved CSKA's season and ensured they would qualify for the Champions League by netting the late equaliser at Rostov on the last matchday.
AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko

That was no surprise, because Leonid Slutsky -- CSKA's coach until 2016 and Wernbloom's mentor -- liked to use the Swede in attack if the team needed a big man in the penalty area in the final minutes. Current coach, Viktor Goncharenko, went a few steps further, however.

With CSKA incapable of signing new players due to financial crisis, Goncharenko found himself without any decent strikers. The solution was to convert Wernbloom into a centre-forward this season, just like at Goteborg a decade ago. It seemed a bit desperate, but the result has been spectacular.

It all started when Wernbloom scored the winner at Basel in the Champions League and he then scored four goals, including the winner at Rubin Kazan, to put the team back on track.

Now CSKA are confident again, especially with Ahmed Musa back on loan after his disastrous spell at Leicester City, and that is why Lyon were conquered in the previous round in Europa League. CSKA lost 1-0 in Moscow but stunned the French side with quality attacking football in the return leg to win 3-2, with Wernbloom netting the crucial third goal.

The Swede willingly fills whatever role the coach asks him to. Against Red Star Belgrade, for example, he was used as a defender and put in a solid performance. At times, it looks like CSKA would love to have several Wernblooms in the squad and need to clone the Swede with injuries mounting. After all, Wernbloom himself is always fit. He only seems to miss games due to suspension -- though he has only been sent off three times in six years.

Brutal on the pitch, the Swede is an easy-going and humorous personality off it, though, and his wife, Nina, claims that he is very romantic and sensitive. In 2014, he complained that the Russian people never smile, and CSKA supporters replied with a brilliant #SmileForPontus Twitter campaign, sending him countless pictures of smiling faces.

His jokes and motivational skills are of huge importance to CSKA, and the national team could definitely use them as well. Sadly for Sweden, the 31-year-old decided to retire from international football after Euro 2016, deeply disappointed that he didn't play a single minute at the tournament.

The midfielder always felt underappreciated by the previous coach, Erik Hamren, and the recent media campaign to bring him back ahead of the World Cup has not succeeded in changing his mind. "That chapter has been closed," he said in February.

A slim hope remains, however, and the pressure could be heavier if Wernbloom stuns Arsenal. He is out of contract in the summer and the Gunners would be wise to take a close look at him. Wernbloom is not the new Patrick Vieira, but there are certain similarities and, wherever he plays, CSKA will fancy their chances at the Emirates Stadium.

Λιγο πολυ αμπαλο τον λεει ...μαλιστα...αλητεσ κ αυτοι

[koseco]

Με αφορμή τις διαφορετικές απόψεις απο χθές για τον Σουηδό δεν μπορώ να μην παρατηρήσω ότι αυτές εκφράζονται με ένα επίπεδο χωρίς προσωπικές αντιπαραθέσεις.
Μακάρι να πάει όλη η σεζόν έτσι.Ομορφαινει το φόρουμ.

Όποιες απόψεις και να εκφραζονται...όπως και εκφράζονται...το φόρουμ δεν θα είναι πια ποτέ το ίδιο χωρίς τον Πέτρο...

[Mao_Mao]

μάνι με τα κριτήρια μας και τον κάνιας "άμπαλο" τον θεωρώ γιατί και εκείνος πριν ερθει σε εμάς ούτε γκόλ δεν είχε και απο ασσιστ λίγα πράματα.
Ακόμα και τώρα σιγά τις πάσες και την τεχνική.
Αλλα τον γουστάρω φουλ τέτοιο σκυλι του πολέμου αμα έκανε και κανα τάκλιν.
Ο βερνμπλουμ είναι μια βελτιωμένη εκδοση του κάνιας και μαζί στην θέση τους και τα χαρακτηριστικά τους μια χαρά είμαστε.



Φυσικά αμπαλος εννοώ οτι δεν έχει και τόσο τεχνική ή αλλιώς δεν το μιλάει και τόσο το τοπι.

[goran 64]

Από το σκαρί του παίχτη (πιο στεγνός και από την τσέπη μου) και από το μέχρι τώρα αγωνιστικό του προφίλ βγαίνει συμπέρασμα ότι θα είναι έτοιμος τα Χριστούγεννα;
Υπερβολές νομίζω και παίζει να είναι και σε καλύτερη κατάσταση από ότι νομίζουμε.

Η δική σου ίσως είναι στεγνή, σαν του σωστού του τσίρου για μεζέ στο τσίπουρο, αλλά η δική του έχει καβούρια!

Αυτό μας ενδιαφέρει, αν πρώτιστα είναι επιλογή του προπονητή...Λες τελικά να του είχαν στείλει απ τον Μάιο ειδικό πρόγραμμα εκγύμνασης, όπως διάβασα εδώ μέσα να αναρωτιέται με νόημα κάποιος συμφορουμίτης μας, πριν καιρό?

Αν είναι να ρθει θε να ρθεί, αλλιώς ας προσπεράσει...

Ψυχραιμία, υπομονή και στήριξη...Μόνο ...


Υ.Γ. Καλή κονόμα πάντως κάνανε οι ΑΡΔ με το θέμα του...Τόσες σελίδες γράφτηκαν εδώ, φανταστείτε πόσα κλιξ...

[Mao_Mao]

Καλα ισχύει οχι απλα κονόμα... μισό βερνμπλουμ ζειπαι να βγάλανε απο τα κλικς

[Equalizer]

το θέμα δεν είναι που κοιτούσε αυτός το θέμα είναι αν τον κοίταζαν αυτοί

Τον Ακπομ που τον κοίταξαν στην Αγγλία οι μισοί τον βγάλανε άχρηστο και ισάξιο του Κουλούρη όταν ηρθε.


Παρανοια

[Mao_Mao]

Panta δεν ξέρω τι γινόταν πάντως υπήρχαν δημοσιεύματα απο πολλες χώρες με το ονομα του απ'τα χριστουγεννα.Δεν ξέρω με κάθε επιφύλαξη τα λέω αλλα δεν μπορεί να το γράφαν ολοι τυχαια

[john4serres]

Από το σκαρί του παίχτη (πιο στεγνός και από την τσέπη μου) και από το μέχρι τώρα αγωνιστικό του προφίλ βγαίνει συμπέρασμα ότι θα είναι έτοιμος τα Χριστούγεννα; Υπερβολές νομίζω και παίζει να είναι και σε καλύτερη κατάσταση από ότι νομίζουμε.

Συμφωνω με τον seaman.
Το αρμόδιο τεχνικο μας τιμ θα τον εξετασει και θα καταλαβει ποτε θα ειναι ετοιμος.

(πλεον φαινονται ολα, ελπιζω να μην την πατησουμε ΠΟΤΕ ΞΑΝΑ οπως την πατησαμε με τον απατεωνα Λεβέκ)

[MANIAKOS]

μάνι με τα κριτήρια μας και τον κάνιας "άμπαλο" τον θεωρώ γιατί και εκείνος πριν ερθει σε εμάς ούτε γκόλ δεν είχε και απο ασσιστ λίγα πράματα.
Ακόμα και τώρα σιγά τις πάσες και την τεχνική.
Αλλα τον γουστάρω φουλ τέτοιο σκυλι του πολέμου αμα έκανε και κανα τάκλιν.
Ο βερνμπλουμ είναι μια βελτιωμένη εκδοση του κάνιας και μαζί στην θέση τους και τα χαρακτηριστικά τους μια χαρά είμαστε.



Φυσικά αμπαλος εννοώ οτι δεν έχει και τόσο τεχνική ή αλλιώς δεν το μιλάει και τόσο το τοπι.

Συμφωνω απολυτα

[goran 64]

Μασ αρεσουν τα παραμυθια γενικα

Εμένα πάλι, αν δεν είναι του Χανς Κρίστιαν Άντερσεν, δεν μ αρέσουν καθόλου... :ugeek:
Τέρμα Χανσκριστιαναντε(α)ρσενικός από .............. παιδί μικρό...




Υ.Γ. Αυτά δε των ΑΡΔ είναι τόσο κακής ποιότητας, που πρέπει να χουν πάνω προειδοποίηση σαν τα τσιγάρα!

[tzelas]

Με την διάθεση που έδειξε για μη ποδόσφαιρο και προετοιμασία, το ερώτημα για μένα είναι, ποιές εγγυήσεις έχουμε ότι ο πάικτης στα 32 του δεν κάνει το τελευταίο του συμβόλαιο περιμένοντας την απόσυρση του από το ποδόσφαιρο και όπως λέει και ό ίδιος μετά να αράξει και να γκρινιάζει; Γιατί να μη το κάνει από τώρα με την νοοτροπία που έδειξε; Γιατί να σκιστεί με σίγουρο κάθε μήνα να τρέχει το ακριβό μηνιάτικο; Τι φιλοδοξίες έχει; Για να παίξει στην εθνική που αποσύρθηκε (δείγμα και αυτό της νοοτροπίας του για μη καταπόνηση); Για την υστεροφημία του; Τι με λέει ότι δεν θα αράξει και θα κάνει ρδελούπο και την ομάδα όταν βλέπουν οι άλλοι ότι σκίζονται και ο αραγμένος παίρνει περισσότερα από αυτούς; Δεν αρκεί να φέρεις έναν πολύ ποιοτικό παίκτη αλλά να μπορείς να πάρεις και αυτή την ποιότητα από αυτόν. Εμείς θα μπορέσουμε να την πάρουμε με όσα είδαμε μέχρι τώρα; Αν βρούν τις απαραίτητες εγγυήσεις μέσα από το συμβόλαιο καλώς, διαφορετικά θα υπάρξει πραγματικά όφελος για παίκτη που δε δείχνει να έχει φιλοδοξίες;

[Παλαιολόγος]

Δηλαδή σε περίπτωση που έρθει, θα υποστεί αντίποινα ψυχολογικού πολέμου; Όντας πλέον μέλος του ΠΑΟΚ; Είναι και αναμενόμενο κιόλας; Εμάς μαράζι μας στην τελική είναι να δυναμώσει ο ΠΑΟΚ ή το εγώ καθενός μας ατομικά;

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